diff --git a/glicid/packages/gcc.scm b/glicid/packages/gcc.scm
index 2cd0513..ec7f7bd 100644
--- a/glicid/packages/gcc.scm
+++ b/glicid/packages/gcc.scm
@@ -11,7 +11,22 @@
 (define %generic-search-paths
   (@@ (gnu packages gcc) %generic-search-paths))
 
-;;
+;; now define-public normally hiden versions
+
+(define-public gfortran-12
+  (hidden-package (custom-gcc gcc-12 "gfortran"
+                              '("fortran") %generic-search-paths)))
+
+(define-public gfortran-toolchain-12
+  (package
+    (inherit (make-gcc-toolchain gfortran-12))
+    (synopsis "Complete GCC tool chain for fortran lang development")
+    (description
+     "This package provides a complete GCC tool chain for
+                  fortran lang development to be installed in user profiles.  This includes
+                  fortran, as well as libc (headers and binaries, plus debugging symbols
+                  in the @code{debug} output), and binutils.")))
+
 
 (define-public gfortran-11
   (hidden-package (custom-gcc gcc-11 "gfortran"
@@ -26,3 +41,48 @@
                   fortran lang development to be installed in user profiles.  This includes
                   fortran, as well as libc (headers and binaries, plus debugging symbols
                   in the @code{debug} output), and binutils.")))
+
+;; gfortran@10 and gfortran-toolchain@10 are defaults 
+
+;(define-public gfortran-10
+;  (hidden-package (custom-gcc gcc-10 "gfortran"
+                              '("fortran") %generic-search-paths)))
+
+;(define-public gfortran-toolchain-10
+;  (package
+;    (inherit (make-gcc-toolchain gfortran-10))
+;    (synopsis "Complete GCC tool chain for fortran lang development")
+;    (description
+;     "This package provides a complete GCC tool chain for
+;                  fortran lang development to be installed in user profiles.  This includes
+;                  fortran, as well as libc (headers and binaries, plus debugging symbols
+;                  in the @code{debug} output), and binutils.")))
+
+
+(define-public gfortran-9
+  (hidden-package (custom-gcc gcc-9 "gfortran"
+                              '("fortran") %generic-search-paths)))
+
+(define-public gfortran-toolchain-9
+  (package
+    (inherit (make-gcc-toolchain gfortran-9))
+    (synopsis "Complete GCC tool chain for fortran lang development")
+    (description
+     "This package provides a complete GCC tool chain for
+                  fortran lang development to be installed in user profiles.  This includes
+                  fortran, as well as libc (headers and binaries, plus debugging symbols
+                  in the @code{debug} output), and binutils.")))
+
+(define-public gfortran-8
+  (hidden-package (custom-gcc gcc-8 "gfortran"
+                              '("fortran") %generic-search-paths)))
+
+(define-public gfortran-toolchain-8
+  (package
+    (inherit (make-gcc-toolchain gfortran-8))
+    (synopsis "Complete GCC tool chain for fortran lang development")
+    (description
+     "This package provides a complete GCC tool chain for
+                  fortran lang development to be installed in user profiles.  This includes
+                  fortran, as well as libc (headers and binaries, plus debugging symbols
+                  in the @code{debug} output), and binutils.")))